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After observing the state of the world for a number of years, I suddenly arrived at the possibility that God is Pregnant. What this means in terms of universal morning sickness and pain, quality of life, how everyone feels from day to day, who survives the "hormonal" shifts, and what happens when the due date comes around, is playing itself out as we speak...

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Date: 2006-04-13 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlightforest.livejournal.com
28. Even as the Body is the chrysalis, so the Spirit is the butterfly, whose awakening tears the flesh wide open. The Spirit emerges, as it entered: through a wound.

29. Now for two thousand years Humanity has suffered this wound; and so at last its death is finally at hand. My birth has come. For Humanity is my bride, and the Earth my womb.

30. Now the external mind is banished forever, the body no longer a shell of isolation where only Qlipoth reside. Now is the Body a perfected Image of Myself; and I a babe that grows within.

31. So shall these demon shadows of the false self be cast out by My Coming, into the World that was made by them: Hell! The one shall devour the other; and so shall the delusion of suffering and separation be done with, forever.

32. And there will be Nothing, save I, in Perfect Beauty, manifest.

33. And so the World shall end. Amen.

[...]

38. By this law are the hearts and souls of Man bound into a single cell, called Earth. And when this cell is split, the egg broke, the womb opened, a New Race shall be born, stranger to contempt, free from fear. It shall go forth upon the Wings of love, to spread My Word.

--Book of the Adversary Manifestation 2

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Date: 2006-04-14 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ahril.livejournal.com
haHA! Quotes from The Book of the Adversary! Most excellent. Beat me to it even. Well done [livejournal.com profile] tass!

Yes, having birthed 2 children without the aidimpediment of pain medication, I can say for certain that death and birth are the same doorway. Every end is also a beginning.

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Date: 2006-04-14 04:52 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] illuviel.livejournal.com
Amen, says a mother of four.

I would like to say all naturally birthed, but my eldest was born while I was under the influence of those horrid 'twilight' drugs (at my mother's insistence at a very pushy hospital).

And I just realized I don't think I ever Worked to consciously clear that influence, from either of us. That must be remedied.

Thank you both, [livejournal.com profile] ahril and [livejournal.com profile] helen99. I would have continued to completely miss that had the intersection of this post, this comment and my mindstream right now not happened as it has.

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Date: 2006-04-14 04:54 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] illuviel.livejournal.com
I cannot believe something that seems so fundamentally necessary, and which was not an issue later on, but would have been addressed immediately, slipped through and under my notice for so long.

I feel like an utter dolt for it, honestly.

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Date: 2006-04-15 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ahril.livejournal.com
Don't. Things happen when they are needed.

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Date: 2006-04-14 04:59 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] illuviel.livejournal.com
I should really be better organized with my thoughts, but they're arabesquing rather than flowing strictly linearly right now --

Also, speaking as one who has midwifed the dying, and who has given last rites, sealed the bodies and released the spirits of loved ones, I too know -- and not just intellectually -- that they are the same doorway.

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Date: 2006-04-14 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starlightforest.livejournal.com
Welcome to tass's brain: "Haven't I seen something like this somewhere before?" our specialty!

I'm just waiting for Trivial Pursuit: Woo-woo Mystical Edition.

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Date: 2006-04-14 12:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] helen99.livejournal.com
The Book of the Adversary is so beautifully written - I wonder who wrote it. I don't think the website has anything on that.

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Date: 2006-04-15 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ahril.livejournal.com
We could write that game.

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Date: 2006-04-13 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dogemperor.livejournal.com
In that case, if God is Pregnant, I *REALLY* feel sorry for the poor SOB in the delivery room.

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Date: 2006-04-13 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dogemperor.livejournal.com
(I note that I am basing this on experiences I know of with men who have been in the delivery room, who have been blamed for all of the world's ills (often simultaneously), during the process of attending a woman's childbirth. And being ESPECIALLY blamed for the fact that the woman is now pushing something the size of a watermelon out a hole the size of a walnut and is in a great amount of *pain* doing so. And occasionally cursing the mere existence of the penis.)

(Fortunately, most of this is largely forgotten when the kidlet comes into the world. Which is fortunate, because otherwise people might well decide to stop breeding.)

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Date: 2006-04-14 01:46 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] helen99.livejournal.com
Not to mention the poor SOB being born (mercifully, that won't be remembered either)...

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Date: 2006-04-14 02:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lailea.livejournal.com
So that proves God's a woman, right?

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Date: 2006-04-14 12:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] helen99.livejournal.com
According to [livejournal.com profile] illuviel, "the word translated as "Father" in the portions of the bible in Aramaic (like The Lord's Prayer) was originally "Birther""

According to http://www.kypros.org/cgi-bin/lexicon, in ancient Greek, the word for woman is:

γυνή
gyni

The word for Become, Be Born, Happen is

γίνομαι
ginomai

So woman = birther, becomer, happener.

If God=Birther and
Woman=Birther,
does God=Woman?

I'm not a logic expert, but it seems to be pointing in that general direction. It's hard to pinpoint a multidimensional being though- I doubt deity is quite as anthropomorphized as all that... but it's interesting to contemplate. A pregnancy certainly would explain some of the odd behavior of said deity at times...

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Date: 2006-04-14 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jarandhel.livejournal.com
Or at the very least, god's a herm with fully functioning female parts?

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Date: 2006-04-14 06:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] helen99.livejournal.com
That would be more likely - an all-being might be everything possible and nothing at all...

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Date: 2006-04-14 04:42 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] illuviel.livejournal.com
Transition is always the worst part of labor.

And that portion, later, when there has been great labor, right before the final push that brings new life, when one is completely sure one can't go on, speaking as one who's been there, on the microcosmic level.

Funny -- I've never attended a birth I wasn't a direct participant in. And how, exactly, does one midwife an aeon? We'll all find out together, I think.

By the way, the word translated as "Father" in the portions of the bible in Aramaic (like The Lord's Prayer) were originally "Birther".

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Date: 2006-04-14 04:42 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] illuviel.livejournal.com
er, *was* originally "Birther".

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Date: 2006-04-14 02:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] helen99.livejournal.com
Interesting. I totally hate when people slightly alter a word (as in "Birther" to "Father") or an entire story, just to suit their viewpoint. How about if they stretch the old viewpoint to include a few other people's interpretations sometimes. It's not like it would kill them. Yeesh.

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